Lee,

I think most folks just don't respond well to a hard sales pitch, and you do come on very strong for PES you have to admit.

Someone once told me : You have to "Command" peoples respect not "Demand" their respect.

I don't think there is anyone here (Larry included) who does not think that PES has a wealth of knowledge and good products but I wonder if your not doing them a disservice by over-selling them. A qulity shop and a quality product sells itself.

If you'll forgive me a moments indulgence here I'll tell you this: I opened my machine shop 15 years ago and have NEVER had business cards printed! My work speaks for itself.

I am by definition a "do-it-yerselfer" I am quite sure that before I am through with my project I will probably have made my own set of "lumps". Why ? because I CAN and just like Larry and others . . . I just can't help myself ! I'm a tinkerer a tuner and a "hands-on" kinda guy!

PES didn't invent the "lump", do you question them on why they bothered ? I'm sure Clyde's answer would be the same as Larry's, Luis's, mine or any one else who's working on L6 head's.
It's to explore, expand and develope the theory of L6 head porting as well as our own knowledge.

Where would you be if Clyde would have been satisfied with heaping tons of Bronze into the ports of a head ? You and the rest of us wouldn't even have the option of a Bolt-in lump would we ?

I agree with you that there are many "Tried and true " answers out there. Lots of "proven" ways of doing things But we choose to be different. That's why we have Six cylinders to begin with ! We don't always want "Tried and true" or we'd have V-friggin'-8's.

I have learned much from you and your posts and you are a valuable resource here but please don't stand in the way of curiosity and inventivness that's how the "New stuff" comes to be.

I think we question you as the "Messenger" not your "Message".

What can I say. . . It's your approach not your information.

Sorry for the rant, it's just that I've seen another excellent Forum burn down because of this same kind of tension and mis-understanding.

Someone took the time to provide this forum and it's a fantastic site. I'm very excited about my new project and I, for one, would hate to see this site disappear.

I guess we have to remember we really are "INLINE" with one another !

'Crockett


'Crockett